GM – Alright guys I'm glad to be
starting up Deep Dungeons again. It's been a while since we've
played it. Let's knock out characters and get this rolling.
Player 1 – Sweet, pass me the Players
Tactics 2 book would you?
GM – Don't have that one, just the
core books and none of the new stuff.
Player 2 – Well that works for me.
Player 1 – What? The new stuff has
all the updated classes and new skill lists.
GM – Yes and a fifty dollar price
tag. I can't justify spending that right now.
Player 3 – The regular books work
fine man. Just deal okay.
Player 1 – How can you run a game if
you don't have all the books? Explain that.
GM – I have what I need to run the
game, I ran it fine for years with what I have. There is really no
need for me to get the new stuff right now. Maybe if we really get
to playing this game heavy again but until....
Player 1 – No need? Really? It's
all the new stuff. The stuff people want to play.
Player 3 – Look just deal with it and
make a character alright.
Player 1 – Fine but don't expect me
to be happy about it.
GM – Geez man chill. Here's the
character sheets fresh from the copy shop printer.
Player 1 – Oh now what the hell? The
one page character sheet? Why can't you give us the four player
character sheets with plenty of room to write everything on and keep
it all organized.... I mean really.....
I've seen this one several times.
Both as a player watching other players spout this off or as a
gamemaster listening to a player go on and on about it. The one who
thinks everything that is produced for the game should be made
available to them. Only the best character sheets will do and don't
forget to give them a sheet or two of paper to keep track of things
on. All on your dime of course.
I just want to grab them by the stack
and swivel, pull them over the table and yell in their face “This
shit costs money dammit!”. Now I know the old saying about how
roleplaying games are probably one of the cheapest hobbies to be into
once you figure in the costs per hour of usage and all of that. But
it still isn't cheap and it's not getting any cheaper. Expecting the
guy running to game to shell out his cash over and over again for
books just so you can have access to them. Well that's a bit
delusional if you ask me.
Top it off with the expectation of
character sheets. While I agree that getting quick copies made
usually isn't that costly it still adds up over time. If you go bulk
to get discount rate you run the risk of the game you are running
falling out of favor for a different one or an edition change that
makes the old sheet useless. Then you are stuck with a mountain of
paper gathering dust. Then, as in the example, there is somebody who
expects the top notch multiple page character sheets that are mostly
boxes with the words “Equipment Carried”, “Family Members” or
some such in them. Making up for those to lazy to organize their own
notes themselves. Really how hard is it to keep track of your shit
man?
If you're going to complain about this
then be ready to step up and put your wallet where your mouth is.
Not just for yourself either, do as you expect the GM to do and be
ready to provide and share with the others at the table. You want
those four page character sheets, the copy shop is right down the
street or you can print them out from your computer on a printer (and
get ready for it to cost, I think copier ink is the most expensive
liquid on the planet or something) AND bring enough for everybody.
That new book an absolute must have, then buy it and let everyone at
the table use it.
As for being an ass to the game master
about not providing all this stuff on his own dime. That would not
be a good thing to do at my table. Just thinking about makes me want
to write a GM advice article about when it's okay to be an asshole to
some players.
"If you're going to complain about this then be ready to step up and put your wallet where your mouth is."
ReplyDeleteOutstanding advice! Well said!
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ReplyDeleteBeing an Athiest I think I'll pass on that.
Delete"I'm happy to take a look at it and include it if you buy it and loan it to me for awhile and everyone at the table during."
ReplyDeleteor...
"Find a richer DM. There's the door."
I've been to the point of almost telling a couple of people just that. They beg you to run some really popular game and then when you do they complain that you don't have every book for it right at the start.
DeleteWell said, sir!
ReplyDeleteAs the 'poor GM,' not only do I hate when people expect me to spend a lot of money on something, it also hurts me, personally, when I CAN'T afford to provide my players with what I feel is the best.
I would LOVE to get the 10-sheet character records and all the latest books and miniatures and miniature terrain, an overhead projector, a computer with all the latest apps and programs that seamlessly fits into a $10,000 gaming table...I really would LOVE to do this, but alas, until someone starts paying me $3000-$5000 a month just to game my players will have to settle for the 1-2 page character sheet, bring their own pencils and dice and use pennies for mini's lol
Alright so I play d&d I go through character sheets like toilet paper hahaha! 1 page sheets are good enough for me ^-^ also with the put your money where your mouth is comment. PRICELESS! anyways when your GM/DM says something maybe just thinking out loud or something and you catch what was said, flip around next time you meet up at your game night bring them something. I mean generally a GM provides almost everything in bulk and if it's not good enough for you *points at door* kick rocks I mean technically your playing on their dollar. So say makers are going out, buy new ones for em. They need help taking stuff to the car, volunteer to help then out. And no not in a kiss butt way, in a way to show you appreciate all their help.
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